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I don't have to explain. If you're Canadian you know.

Urban Dictionary

It is the traditional weekend during which one opens 'the camp' (cottage), and signifies the start of summer (and Blackfly season) in Canada. The reference to 'two-four' rather than 'twenty-fourth' is a Canadian inside joke refering to the obligatory case(s) of 24 bottles of beer, or 'two-fours' required to celebrate the opening of the camp and to steel one's courage against the blackflies and the mice that will have settled into the camp since it was closed in the fall.

Except for those of us who don't have a camp or cottage. Surely you know someone who does. Maybe you can wangle an invite by offering to help put in the dock. It would be cheaper to stay at a hotel than replace the hiking boot that became irretrievably stuck in the muck at the bottom of the lake. Nice artifact.

Why do Canadians buy beer by the 24? Are we used to storing stuff up for the winter?  Liquor laws make us generally less able to buy at beer at will, although there are some places where relief is as close as the local dépanneur or the corner store. Incidentally, I love that we, oui, use dépanneur, a name  derived from the French verb "to help out of difficulty". Other places it might make sense to buy beer in smaller quantities, say, a six-pack. But here? Some of us are into caching valuables. If you need to go by boat, or the closest store is 20 miles, er kilometers, or more, then you need quantity. It reminds me of the Jeff Foxworthy  delivery "...if the directions to your house include "turn left at the beer store"... you just might be a Canadian". (Google gives 1,100,000 results for a search on Canadian comedian. That's funny. Make that 1,100,001.) For some (somewhat dated) observations on being too Canadian see Canadian World Domination

Some samples:
  1. Your graduation formal dress was made of flannel.

  2. Your backpack has more than one Canadian flag iron-on.

  3. You know the names of all the guys in Sloan.

  4. You have been on Speaker's Corner. Bonus points if they edited out your carefully prepared rant against the Harris government.

  5. You use a red pen on your non-Canadian textbooks and fill in the missing 'u's from labor, honor, and color.

  6. You know the French equivalents of "free", "prize" and "no sugar added", thanks to your extensive education in bilingual cereal packaging.

  7. You still haven't taken down your "NON" posters from the 95 Referendum.

  8. You know more than 3 guys named Gordon.

The Wiki entry for Victoria Day must have been written by a Canadian. The holiday has been celebrated since 1845. British Monarchs have been in Canada for the party only twice. Victoria Day

The second time was when Queen Elizabeth II was in Canada from 17 May to 25 May 2005, to mark the centennials of the entries of Saskatchewan and Alberta into Confederation, when the fact that it was her official birthday in Canada was completely ignored.
*Emphasis added

The entry reveals us at our most venal in a dispute over an outdated largely irrelevant, yet somehow classic Canadian issue. In Quebec they celebrate this holiday as does the Queen, ignoring the day as a celebration of HRH's official birthday. The official holiday is called the Fete de la Reine by the feds. Quebec legislation has changed the name and meaning totally. It is Journée nationale des patriots and celebrates the 1837 rebellion in Lower Canada.

Geddy Lee and the boys ignore the controversy but mention the party in their song:
Rush:

Lakeside Park
... Everyone would gather
On the twenty-fourth of May
Sitting in the sand
To watch the fireworks display.
Dancing fires on the beach,
Singing songs together...
Though it's just a memory,
Some memories last forever.

Take the Rush quiz to see if you have any expertise regarding "unlistenably pretentious heavy metal for semi-literate hosers." CBC Hoser Quiz

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In the early eighties Bob and Doug Mackenzie teamed up with Geddy to release a Billboard top 10 number, Take off. No you take off, eh.

Mrs. p2p and I went on a date to see Rush early in the romance. Mrs. p2p was attracted to the promise of percussion cannons that would be used to blast the patrons out of Maple Leaf Gardens onto Carelton St. I was attracted to Mrs. p2p in a pre-engagement sort of way. The date didn't go very well but the romance is still game-on. The guys behind us were smoking something and dropped it on my head, burning my hair and scalp. OUCH! The crowd was starting to get a little wild, throwing firecrackers etc. so I insisted we leave. I yelled at the so-called security people, who, honest to God, stepped over a comatose drunk to grab me and threaten to throw me out for complaining. The guy who passed out was, apparently, considered to be an appreciative fan. Not me. Thanks, I was leaving anyway, boys. But I digress. Where was I? Oh yeah, fireworks.

Fireworks are usually part of the celebration and we'll be joining our friends in their backyard. They're artists. I sometimes like to think of them as circus people, but they're not. They certainly make life more interesting. In the last 10 years or so I find I have more friends who are artists, musicians, visual artists, artisans. (Including my artisan baker)And I appreciate them all the more for their interesting, sometimes eccentric lives. But the reason I think of them as gypsies is in their garden. A backdrop to the celebration will be their gypsy caravan made by another local artisan, Daphne. Daphne's Caravans

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No matter how you celebrate this weekend, make it a beauty, eh.

Cheers.

I was thinking of including Kim Mitchell and references to patio lanterns but I decided I might as well go for a soda instead.

Dominic Troiano was a favourite from that era too, he deserves a mention in a future diary.

by paul2port on 05/18/2007 12:42:12 PM EST

It's better than lies
...Nobody hurts and nobody cries

Good plan!

Dom! May he R.I.P. Can't say that I enjoyed all of the music he created but he was spectacularly blessed with brilliant technique often playing two distinct parts on one guitar at the same time. Succeded his idol Robbie Robertson as Rompin' Ronnie's guitar player (Robbie Lane & the Disciples days) in The Hawks. Robbie, Dom, and Freddie Keeler (from The Shays featuring David Clayton-Thomas) - the blonde Telecaster strumming triumvirate of the 60's 'Toronto sound'.

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by Frank Frink on 05/18/2007 01:59:15 PM EST

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before I leave the office.

Veteran Toronto blues guitarist Danny Marks, although a wee bit younger than the Robertson/Troiano/Keeler grouping, was apart of that Yorkville scene, and he idolized all three of course.

You may also find Marks' name familiar if you ever listened to CBC Radio's Humlime where Danny was known as the 'Man with a million sons'.

In or about 1966-67 a 16 year-old Marks joined a fledgling blues group called  'Edward Bear' - yes, that Edward Bear ('The Last Song') - gigging with those same groups he idolized. Hard to believe Edward Bear was once a blues-rock group, eh?

Here's something I can recommend to the fan of Canadian music. Marks released an album a couple years back in tribute to that era. It naturally contains songs locally popularized by Ronnie Hawkins (w. Robertson), The Shays (w. Keeler), and Mandala (w. Troiano) along with songs from The Ugly Ducklings, Jack London & the Sparrow (which morphed into Steppenwolf), Luke & The Apostles, Jackie Shane and others.

The disc is called 'Big Town Boy' which itself is a reference to another Totonto group of the era.

Some reviews here.

And here's an mp3 clip from the disc. This is 'Love-itis' which came from Mandala's 1968 album Soul Crusade. Yes, the same 'Love-itis' covered by the J. Geils Band in the mid-80's. It's Danny's tribute to Donnie Troiano.

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by Frank Frink on 05/18/2007 08:14:27 PM EST

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Your line about two distinct parts immediately reminded me of the late great Lenny Breau whose playing has left me speechless.

Unfortunately, the video and audio quality of these utube clips is not very good.

His recordings are f**king fantastic but can be hard to find other than online.

What a loss.

by Archer on 05/18/2007 03:47:52 PM EST

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Such a tragic story. He still 'frightens' (i.e. humbles) many of the best guitarists still alive.

Gave you the '5' just for mentioning him. No doubt Donnie & Lenny's paths crossed in Toronto.

Know what you mean about the YouTube clips. I had searched them out as while (for potential posting in one of these diaries) and came to the same conclusion. If only some of the vintage clips from his daughter's film (The Genius Of Lenny Breau by Emily Hughes - 1999) were available!

As for Breau's recordings, a number are available from one of Lenny's childhood friends (and students) in Winnipeg.

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by Frank Frink on 05/18/2007 04:13:28 PM EST

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That's the source.

Though Randy Bachmann, to his credit, never tires of talking about and promoting Breau, a lot of Canadian music lovers and Guess Who fans are surprised to find out about the huge influence that the relatively unknown (to the general public) Lenny Breau had on Bachman and the creation of songs such as "Undone".

I have seen "The Genius Of Lenny Breau" on television twice, so it does surface from time to time.

It is most definetly worth remembering and watching out for.

by Archer on 05/18/2007 04:58:36 PM EST

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in eth Breau documentary is priceless. Bachman says all he did was just string together some jazz progressions and codas that Breau had taught him.

Would surprise a lot of Bachman-Turner Overdrive fans to realize that the 'lighter' BTO songs such as 'Blue Collar' and 'Looking Out For Number One' are just Randy trying to do his Lenny thing.

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by Frank Frink on 05/18/2007 06:52:19 PM EST

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I heard Troiano at a small Oakville nightclub and Clapton at Maple Leaf Gardens. At the time I thought Troiano was a far better guitarist, a virtuoso. However, "Slowhand" might have been less than stellar because of his cocaine problem.

by paul2port on 05/18/2007 02:25:17 PM EST

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... you've got to keep in mind that Clapton is a fairly tightly defined specialist. Troiano was probably a more, say, well rounded guitarist. But of course, that is not to say better in any way.

I once had a conversation in a bar with a drunk guy who was beligerently insisting that Clapton was the best guitarist, period. I suggested that someone like Pat Metheney would be considered by most guitar players to be superior in almost every way, except in that area of highly charged, emotional blues and rock blues. (though Metheney is awesome at that too). I bet both Clapton and Metheney would agree.

Drunk guy didn't like the concept.

On the other hand, Clapton created "Layla" (and a few other love songs IIRC) and if he never did anything else, that might just be enough.

I remember Steve Howe from "Yes", who is certainly one of the most respected players in the game,  explaining that his all time favourite player and biggest influence was... wait for it... Chuck Berry!

I think that illustrates how the line of musical brilliance runs from simplicity to complexity and everywhere in between.

A lot of people insist that comparisons of artists like this is pointless, but I think it can help us understand the differences and strengths of various players.

Apologies for running on but it's a subject close to my heart and right now I've got no one around to talk to about this stuff.

S'how 'bout I buy you all a drink?!

by Archer on 05/18/2007 05:37:44 PM EST

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I had a bunch of Clapton queued up with Jonny Lang interleaved. I'd always just assumed that Clapton was God (I saw it somewhere ;) but in recent years I've come to realize that while he may be A god, there are others. Meta and demi notwithstanding.

Brian May comes to mind as one underrated rock guitarist that should be elevated to the mount.

Do run on...

by daMule on 05/18/2007 06:17:03 PM EST

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but I do not care for Clapton.  Not since Cream, anyway.  

Does this mean I'm not cool?  

Canadian Republicans Suck

by prole on 05/18/2007 06:50:46 PM EST

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Ill be uncool too then.

I also dislike led zeplin, I think Robert Plant sounds like a cat being strangled in a wringer washer.
Flame away.

I support the separation of Church and Hate....

by Pale on 05/18/2007 06:56:37 PM EST

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My hair was on fire.

My friggin' hair was on fire! But the boys just want to talk about Clapton.

Tough crowd tonight.

by paul2port on 05/18/2007 10:07:33 PM EST

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Nah. Canadian crowd.

Man, that happens at every Rush concert.

And she still married you anyway?  ;-)

But let me fish a little something cold from underneath the dock for you for your trouble(s).

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by Frank Frink on 05/18/2007 10:29:46 PM EST

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I pretty much feel the same way about Plant's "singing".  But on the other hand, imagining anybody else fronting Zeppelin?  I just can't wrap my head around that one.  The four of them had that lightening in a bottle thing.  It wouldn't have worked with anybody else at the microphone.  

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by prole on 05/18/2007 07:55:01 PM EST

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by Frank Frink on 05/18/2007 07:58:59 PM EST

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Canadian Republicans Suck

by prole on 05/19/2007 02:40:51 AM EST

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saying that Clapton or Zeppelin could conceivably be somehow ' down the list ' -  surely that's just the liquor talking.

( I can tell that you are truly not a fan, pale.  You didn't even spell it right )

Here's a golden oldie - Conserve Water / Shower with a friend

by willy be frantic on 05/19/2007 02:24:36 AM EST

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he pretty much lost me after Derek & The Dominoes. Never got into the whole Slowhand phase, 'Lay Down Sally' and all that. And I always listened to Cream as much for Jack Bruce as Clapton.... you see there was this other guitar guy in early 60's London, England who a lot of people at the time thought was a Clapton imitator although he arrived at his sound independantly of 'God'....

Yet another rock & roll tragedy.

There's also that little thing that happened with Clapton in 1976 at a time when I was mostly listening to things like the Stooges, Igyy (solo), the Dolls & Bowie. I don't think EC's ever really cleared that one up. It remains somewhat problematic for me.

I listen to those early Mac discs a lot more than Cream's.

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by Frank Frink on 05/18/2007 07:08:35 PM EST

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to be down and dirty.  To me, Clapton plays (and sings) like a rich white boy.  Talented for sure, but not my cup of tea.  

Canadian Republicans Suck

by prole on 05/18/2007 07:42:51 PM EST

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At the risk of sounding sexist, I think some of this discussion really is a guy thing. Do women have these kinds of conversations among themselves?

Just askin'

by paul2port on 05/18/2007 10:04:05 PM EST

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I used to have a client who was a really cool girl, a guitarist.  We talked non-stop about music.  I actually went to several concerts with her, because none of her friends would ever go.  We say Joe Satriani, Shawn Colvin, and Sting with Lyle Lovett opening.  And Tuck and Patti.  Most of my friends are musicians, and the ones who aren't love music.  So it's not a boy thing, it's more of a music lover thing.  I haven't jumped in because I've been working all day and out drinking after work.  Hic!

P.S. Frank Frink, may I email you about something to do with music?  

Btw, Dr. Altemeyer has been by.  He is under the  impression that the book hasn't sparked much interest over here.  I think he's used to to DKos' frenetic pace?  I invite everyone back over to my diary to put your $.02 in on the subject if you're inclined.  I promise to try to comment more to keep it flowing.  I've been AFK a lot this week and distracted by personal matters.    

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by prole on 05/19/2007 02:37:46 AM EST

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Clapton's material, as you say, is better.

When I went to see the shows I expected something more of Clapton. He might have just had an off night but I didn't really feel he delivered.

I knew a bit of Troiano's repetoire and his reputation but was absolutely delighted and floored by the performance.

Maybe I dissed Clapton, but I didn't have that as my prime motivation. About comparisons, I agree they're not relevant in art.

Pat Metheny, Stevie Ray... they're all great.

by paul2port on 05/18/2007 10:01:20 PM EST

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I absolutely love them. Spent a bit of time going through the galleries. Way. Too. Cool.

Meant to say something of them earlier but we (cough) got distracted. Certainly a bit of a guy thing but even more so when you remember Archer & I are both homeless musicians. ;-)

Here's to Daphne's Caravans

And also from an Irishman with a bunch of Canadian guys.

Peter Green's guitar playing wasn't the only thing similar to Clapton's. Their singing voices were remarkably alike. Pete could sound sweet, but he could sound gritty as in this little 1969 ode to masturbation.

Six degrees of Lenny Breau?
Some are first degree.

And some are convoluted (first, second and third degree?)

Kurt Elling isn't only a great singer, he's got impeccable taste.

Happy two-four everyone!

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by Frank Frink on 05/18/2007 10:44:18 PM EST

is pretty much an Eastern Canada (Ontario, Quebec, Atlantic Canada) only phenomena. They don't package bottles in 24s out west, a case means twelve bottles. We do get flats of 24 cans, but that isn't a true 'two-four'. And I really have no idea why. Ditto cigarettes. Ask for a 'pack' in the East and they understand it to mean a pack of 25. In the West it's understood to mean a pack of 20.

Think I'll have to pass on the cottage this weekend. Muskoka is a bit of a trek from Vancouver. The first of our two biannual 'male bonding get togethers', the other one is in September. First time I break the sticks out this year.

Eighteen Pastures - Rugged public course. The name says it all. Don't worry about divots. We're masochists.
Golf is a good walk spoiled.
- Mark Twain

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by Frank Frink on 05/18/2007 03:31:04 PM EST

Three more hours to go until the long weekend.  Woot!  Next week my job description changes for the MUCH better.  

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by prole on 05/18/2007 05:11:45 PM EST

A fine discussion, an excellent diary and linky goodness.

I have a couple of Mac albums, ff.  The one with the baboon and the cake on the cover (Mystery to Me) is pretty good, IIRC.  Through that time Bob Welch played with the band.  I once had a solo album of his from after his time with Fleetwood Mac.  It was a decent listen also.

Must be a wet coast thing that you don't get 24 bottles in a case out there.  They are a part of life on the flatlands.  Called a ' two-four ', 12 bottles is a  ' case a beer ' and I find out today that 6 bottles is called a ' sack of beer ' or a ' kids pack '.  

You can get 20 cigs in a package out here - can't tell you what they are called,  I don't see them hardly at all.  Asking for a pack of smokes will get you 25.  Does anyone call them a ' deck of smokes ' ? or is it just me.

I had never heard the Victoria Day long weekend called ' May two-four '.  It is called ' May long ' in these parts.

I did enjoy the ' too Canadian ' list, p2p.

43. You think -10 C is mild weather.

Now that's the truth.  If there is no wind, -10 C is positively balmy.

Here's a golden oldie - Conserve Water / Shower with a friend

by willy be frantic on 05/19/2007 02:51:19 AM EST

we used to get a case, which was 24.  A twelver, or a twelve pack, had 14.  Just kidding, it had 12.  Or a sixer.  Or a bottle of Jagermeister.  I'd never heard it called a two-four until very recently.  

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by prole on 05/19/2007 03:21:42 AM EST

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Check this out.  

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by prole on 05/19/2007 03:18:01 AM EST